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Jason Linden
April 6th, 2020 at 7:13 am
Commented on: CrossFit Trainer Loses Nutritional Speech Suit; Battle Continues

For the same reason we have license requirements of doctors, engineers, nurses, electricians, pharmacists, etc. I think it's reasonable to have license requirements of those that administer nutritional advice to those with medical conditions.

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Cody Collins
October 7th, 2019 at 3:12 pm
Commented on: CrossFit Trainer Loses Nutritional Speech Suit; Battle Continues

What education is required to legally give nutrition advice? is there online certificate options? or does one have to become a RD?

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Mark Bueche
August 9th, 2019 at 12:28 pm
Commented on: CrossFit Trainer Loses Nutritional Speech Suit; Battle Continues

You are all making a pretty big assumption that she was in fact giving out Crossfit endorsed information. Nothing in the case seems to say this. If the organization is 100% behind their nutrition philosophy; then why are they fighting it on a 1st amendment argument? However if you all want to argue based on evidence; might I suggest “The China Study”. It is arguably the largest nutritional study ever completed, but be prepared to have your anecdotal evidence ready. This one really flies in the face of your cultural beliefs. Enjoy.

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Anthony Swartz
August 9th, 2019 at 12:54 pm

Mark, not sure I'm following your comments about the China Study? Have you seen the work by Denise Minger essentially showing that it has many fallacies? https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/

Regards,

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Gregory Hunter
August 8th, 2019 at 11:43 pm
Commented on: CrossFit Trainer Loses Nutritional Speech Suit; Battle Continues

Russ,

I actually completed the paleo challenge 4 years ago and got off three BP meds. Twice a day!

The RX of Diet and Crossfit has changed my life. My point is don’t let the Judges hide behind their laws. However winning against them courts protects all affiliates

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Gregory Hunter
August 8th, 2019 at 12:26 pm
Commented on: CrossFit Trainer Loses Nutritional Speech Suit; Battle Continues

Maybe Crossfit should issue a certificate for nutritional coaching and use our data to validate the methodology and validity of “eat meat, vegetables,fruits, nuts, seed, little starch, no sugar. And take away there bias via a cert from AND.

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Kimberly Reed
August 8th, 2019 at 12:33 pm

Agreed! What Crossfit is doing by supporting this lawsuit is talking out of both sides of their mouth. On the one side only certified CF trainers can offer CF classes in this case they want to support someone that doesn’t have the certification the state requires to charge $ for nutritional coaching. If this were an individual offering CF without a CF cert Crossfit would be fining them a lot more than $750 along with the order to cease and desist.

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Russ Greene
August 8th, 2019 at 4:21 pm

Gregory, if you at this point do not think that sufficient evidence supports the disease-avoidance benefits from a whole foods diet that restricts or eliminates refined carbs and added sugar (as recommended by Crossfit for two generations), nothing will change your mind.


Kimberley,

If the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics wanted to follow CrossFit's footsteps and only restrict who would offer AND (tm) nutritional services, we would welcome that policy change immediately. Such a scenario would permit CrossFit trainers to offer nutritional services as long as they avoided the terms AND, or even registered dietitian / nutritionist.


Instead, the AND continues to lobby for regulations that outlaw the generic practice of nutritional services, and not just the titles and brand names that professionals can use. That's the problem.

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Kimberly Reed
August 8th, 2019 at 12:21 pm
Commented on: CrossFit Trainer Loses Nutritional Speech Suit; Battle Continues

Del Castillo was applying her training from an unaccredited online holistic health program, offering six-month coaching programs to clients for pay.

Florida wasn't telling Del Castillo what she could or could not say or what she must or must not say. She could give all sorts of nutrition advice out for free. But in order to earn a living giving advice, she needed to get a license. Reference here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason.com/2019/07/18/judge-rules-florida-can-require-a-license-to-give-out-diet-tips/%

A CF L2 has not YET been approved by the state as meeting the requirements for licensed dietician therefore the state is correct and Del Castillo is unaccredited in the state of FL and should not be charging for nutritional advice.

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Russ Greene
August 8th, 2019 at 4:17 pm

Kimberley,

You have explained what Florida's law says and how Castillo violated it. That is irrelevant. No one disputes that Castillo violated Florida's nutritional licensure law.


At issue is whether Florida's law is constitutional and reasonable. You think governments have the constitutional and moral authority to conduct sting operations against CrossFit trainers, and threaten them with jail time, for giving lifesaving nutritional advice. We don't.


Specifically, the questions raised are


1. whether Florida's law is compatible with the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech


2. whether any evidence supports the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics campaign to protect its government-enforced monopoly on nutritional services.


Regarding #1, you and the dietitians seem to think that earning a living cancels the first amendment. Unfortunately for you, the Supreme Court appears to disagree. As Clarence Thomas penned in the majority opinion on NIFLA vs. Becerra,


"Speech is not unprotected merely because it is uttered by 'professionals.' This Court has 'been reluctant to mark off new categories of speech for diminished constitutional protection.'"


As for #2, if you and the dietitians had evidence demonstrating that threatening CrossFit trainers with jail time improved the efficacy and safety of nutritional services, you would cite it. You, and they, do not do so, for a simple reason: it does not exist.


The AND would be well-advised to disengage from rent-seeking and instead stop killing type-two diabetics slowly with antiquated, iatrogenic carbohydrate-laden regimens and get in line with the American Diabetes Associations recent, belated guidelines:


"â—‹ Emphasize nonstarchy vegetables.

â—‹ Minimize added sugars and refined grains.

â—‹ Choose whole foods over highly processed foods to the extent possible.

c Reducing overall carbohydrate intake for individuals with diabetes has demonstrated the most evidence for improving glycemia and may be applied in a variety of eating patterns that meet individual needs and preferences."


The AND just might receive compelling evidence that permitting unqualified professionals to supply inaccurate dietary advice is dangerous. It will come from their own nutritionists and dietitians.


Source:

https://eatright.org/health/diseases-and-conditions/diabetes/carbohydrates-part-of-a-healthful-diabetes-diet

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Allen Kross
August 8th, 2019 at 11:27 am
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I loved the games. It is not easy to finish at a place less than you trained for or had expectations for. I am a masters athlete, and no where near the elite level that participate in the games so you can take this with a grain of salt. I was, however a Marine who served his time, and no what it is like to face a 'performance on demand' scenario. To all those who missed the cut, and have not 'come out to give an opinion' on the new format I applaud you. To those who did not make the cut and have 'come out to give and opinion' and owned up to their performance I applaud you even louder. To those who have not made the cut and have 'come out to give an opinion' and whinge about the format I will use you as a tool to teach my granddaughter what not to be like when 'things don't go exactly your way.' Just the love/hate relationship one gets with CrossFit after 9+ years. Peace

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Allen Kross
August 8th, 2019 at 11:28 am

And that should be KNOW not no after a second glance.

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Anton Gross
August 8th, 2019 at 1:44 am
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There is a timed factor in all things. All aspects of life have a clock and the finality or ending phase exists in all aspects and chores and events. I have never read Emerson before tonight and now I must ask myself why? I think I should re read it a few times and some other works but I really enjoyed it. I feel that he touches the powerful aspect of an emotional ending, of something meaningful closing itS final chapter. It read as both eloquent and sophisticated and also warm and common a the same time. .

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