Looking forward to trying this one strict next time.
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Rachel Bailey
February 29th, 2020 at 2:16 am
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Did fran 2 years ago at 58# for 5:54. This year at 63# for a time of 5:53.
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Shawn Hakimi
January 20th, 2020 at 2:22 pm
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14:35 Rx'd
Went unbroken on thrusters; reduced to singles pretty quickly on pull ups but all were honest reps.
Fran time is 5:27
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Matthieu Dubreucq
November 26th, 2019 at 7:43 pm
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I like to see that in Greg's case he would need to improve his power out put with the heavier weight in order to get better at Fran. But he would need to scale the weight if his goal is to maximise today's power output. This is a nice dilemma when coaching.
First if we need to teach athlete intensity we need to "fight" with them to understand that lighter will most of time mean bigger power out put at first. But in the long run we need to improve strength and capacity with higher loads in order to pass the plateau that may happen after a while.
So scaling should be done by understanding what is the level and needs of the athlete infant of us, more importantly what is their goal.
Great article.
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William Ma
June 25th, 2019 at 12:31 am
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9:12
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Nate Gordon
April 5th, 2019 at 6:33 pm
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9:16
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Kury Akin
March 19th, 2019 at 2:58 pm
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9:28 @40kg (90%), strict ring pulls. Thrusters were sets of 2, 1, 1. Pulls 3, 2, 2.
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John Doody
March 17th, 2019 at 4:55 pm
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7:36 Rx’d
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Sebastien Hotte
March 12th, 2019 at 6:50 pm
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11:54
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Fl oR
March 11th, 2019 at 6:54 pm
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6min rxd
At -3 degrees celsius in the garage gym
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Pyer-Hugh Dion
March 8th, 2019 at 10:36 pm
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7:50
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Manchild Manchild
March 7th, 2019 at 5:49 pm
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35# dumbbells for thrusters
9:58
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John Campion
March 4th, 2019 at 4:08 pm
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65# thrusters
6:39
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Sam Pat
March 2nd, 2019 at 11:49 pm
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Rest Day
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Matt Crouse
February 26th, 2019 at 10:56 pm
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Rx 9:04, slow on pull ups
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Morgan Greene
February 26th, 2019 at 9:50 pm
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6:48
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ART SHELDON
February 25th, 2019 at 1:16 pm
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M50/5'5"/155
#65 THRUSTERS
8:05
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Scott Wiedmeyer
February 25th, 2019 at 1:44 am
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32 / M / 5'9" / 140lbs
20lb dumbbells thrusters x21-15-9
Strict ring pull-ups x12-9-6
12:44
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Tim Coleman
February 22nd, 2019 at 11:47 pm
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8:27
75lbs on barbell, with prescribed volume
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Nathan Bynum
February 22nd, 2019 at 8:53 pm
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Scaled to 21-15-9 for time of:
Thrusters
Strict pull-ups
65lb bar
12:06
Male / 39 / 6' / 194lbs
Completed on 2/20/19
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Scott Jacobson
February 22nd, 2019 at 4:58 pm
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5’8” / 162 lb / 20 / M
Rx’d 4:53
ouchies
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Hank McKibban
February 22nd, 2019 at 12:29 am
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8:48 rx
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Richard Foster
February 21st, 2019 at 11:18 pm
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Scaled
K/bell thrusters (35/25) 21-15-9
Strict P/ups, 15-12-9
9:05
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Chris Meldrum
February 21st, 2019 at 9:15 pm
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As rx’d, 6:55.
Did after heavy deads. Harder than expected. My best chest-to-bar Fran is 5:26, so I was hoping I could get around 6 minutes. Unbroken thrusters. Had hoped to go sets of 5 for the pull-ups, but this broke down near the end of round 1. By round 3, I was doing 3’s and then singles. Right elbow still shows some minor tendonitis on strict pull-ups unless I supinate.
45m/5'10"/180
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Christian Heck
February 21st, 2019 at 9:11 pm
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7:06
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Mike de Graauw
February 21st, 2019 at 6:47 pm
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6:35
M/59/6’2”/230
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Tom Perry
February 21st, 2019 at 6:29 pm
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57 / 167
75 pound thrusters
6:47
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Chris Meldrum
February 21st, 2019 at 9:44 pm
nice work Tom
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Dan Kremer
February 21st, 2019 at 4:36 pm
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13:37 Rx’d
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Jonathan Lee
February 21st, 2019 at 4:07 am
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65#
9:50
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Chris Hopper
February 21st, 2019 at 12:11 am
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@ 65lbs 18:35
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Liz Rekas
February 20th, 2019 at 8:41 pm
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Apartment wod makeup
10:35 scaled
21-15-9
Empty bar thrusters (ub)
Strict pull-ups
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Gordon Lee
February 20th, 2019 at 7:31 pm
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Scaled to 65lbs
21-15-9
9:15
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Clint Michael
February 20th, 2019 at 2:47 pm
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14:10
RX’d
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Rob Johnson
February 20th, 2019 at 9:22 am
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17mins
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Brendan Mullan
February 20th, 2019 at 9:18 am
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10 minutes
40 kg
Assisted pull ups 😁
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Jesse Montagnino
February 20th, 2019 at 6:07 am
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Scaled to 65lb. Grip was the major limiting factor here. 6:11
Had to break up the pull ups, which I've never done for regular fran, but felt more hard on regular fran.
D
35 lb black band for 21
Purple for 15-9
6:33
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Jesus Carlos Rocha
February 20th, 2019 at 5:21 am
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6:38 min Rx
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Dezert Sky Kiddoo
February 20th, 2019 at 4:54 am
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9:51 (35lb db thrusters)
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Tyler Howard
February 20th, 2019 at 1:56 am
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M/25/5'9"/160
9:03 Rx
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Micah McAllaster
February 20th, 2019 at 1:51 am
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65lbs 15:43
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Eric Love
February 20th, 2019 at 1:23 am
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The data point showing Greg's power output actually increased at the lighter loading on Fran I think often gets missed. Also a good data point reminder that 2/3 of the work in Fran comes from bodyweight. Takeaway: intensity can be found in; lighter and faster loadings and bodyweight movements.
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Nathan Stong
February 19th, 2019 at 10:43 pm
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Not strict, but 3:26 Rx
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Brian Anderson
February 19th, 2019 at 10:09 pm
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5:34 Rx
M-42-69-170#
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Brian Anderson
February 19th, 2019 at 10:09 pm
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5:34 Rx
M-42-69-170#
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Brian Rosenbaum
February 19th, 2019 at 10:06 pm
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M/56/6’2”/178
Rx - 11:51
7,7,7 - 6,5,5,5
5,5,5 - 5,5,3,2
5,4 - 4,3,2
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Coastie Nick
February 19th, 2019 at 8:45 pm
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6:45 Rx’d
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Adrian Aguilar
February 19th, 2019 at 8:20 pm
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M/33/5'10"/185#
6:09 RX
This was fantastic.
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Gustavo Meneghel
February 19th, 2019 at 7:46 pm
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7’32” Rx
M/32/83kg/174cm
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Jade Teasdale
February 19th, 2019 at 6:57 pm
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45#s 6:45
F/21/132#\6'4"
Thrusters unbroken! PU needed breaking up.
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Jade Teasdale
February 21st, 2019 at 4:18 am
😂😂😂 Oops! Definitely not 6 foot 4!!!
5'4"!!! My bad! 😊
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Dmitry Zolotyh
February 19th, 2019 at 6:10 pm
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For time:
21-15-9 thrusters
15-12-9 strict pull-ups
25 kg
9:56
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Jeffrey Howard
February 19th, 2019 at 5:48 pm
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7:05
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Scott MacArthur
February 19th, 2019 at 5:27 pm
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10:09, killer with the strict PU
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Greg Fairbanks
February 19th, 2019 at 5:12 pm
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Jumping negative pullups
65# bar thrusters
9:58
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Ian Heeks
February 19th, 2019 at 4:23 pm
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10.30 subbed pull ups for inverted rows
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Christopher Voght
February 19th, 2019 at 3:16 pm
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9:46 Rx
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Cian Davidson
February 19th, 2019 at 2:59 pm
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Hard workout, hit like all hell did it in 6:42
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Jonas Buysse
February 19th, 2019 at 11:03 am
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7'16" RX
Thrusters UB
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Viktor Wachtler
February 19th, 2019 at 10:17 am
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9:19 RX
F*cking hate thrusters!
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braulio garcia
February 19th, 2019 at 9:32 am
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14:50/65/spu
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Liang Kong
February 19th, 2019 at 5:46 am
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07:07 Rxd
"Fran" was my first CrossFit workout ever in 2012 when I was still in the Police Force. I can crash the 1K run like a firebreather; I can play the point guard on the Academy court like Jason Kidd; I thought I was a FIT MF. But with limited knowledge of Scaling and kipping back then, a lesson was learned in a hard way. I barely could finish it with prescribed weights combined with strict Pull-ups, so that end up with quitting at the round of 15 pull-ups, laying on my back and crying for an Oxygen Mask was not an accident.
Man, almost seven years, what CrossFit has done to me?!
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Rebecca Cunningham Rose
February 19th, 2019 at 5:41 am
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8:50 - 25kg, toe pull ups
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Mohamed Mounir
February 19th, 2019 at 5:28 am
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Man 41
Rx
7.22
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Titipong Akemiti
February 19th, 2019 at 5:16 am
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7 minutes 95bl
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Randy Sigman
February 19th, 2019 at 5:00 am
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11:24
Thrusters75#
Blue banded pull-ups
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Travis Jones
February 19th, 2019 at 4:50 am
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7:27
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Max Black
February 19th, 2019 at 4:20 am
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3:05, not strict
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Michael Marleau
February 19th, 2019 at 4:15 am
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Strict Fran
21-15-9 reps for time of:
Thrusters
Strict pull-ups
Men: 95 lb.
12:21
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Kevin Marshall
February 19th, 2019 at 3:41 am
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Rx 9:17
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Gavin Danfelt-Martin
February 19th, 2019 at 3:39 am
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6:40 RX
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Craig Hicks
February 19th, 2019 at 3:20 am
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Craig M/180/42/5’9 8:40 as prescribed
Thanks coach
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Byron Hills
February 19th, 2019 at 3:12 am
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M/42/6’2/190
21:40
Rx except red band assist on pull-ups
Had to break up every set-still out of shape
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Namkhay Gyalpo
February 19th, 2019 at 3:12 am
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hello from the kingdom of Bhutan🙏
Thrusters 81lb instead of 95lb
Pull Ups strict
Time 7:10
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Brian Conti
February 19th, 2019 at 2:49 am
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8:02 Rx
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Phill Kiddoo
February 19th, 2019 at 2:30 am
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7:18 rxd
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Benjamin Taylor
February 19th, 2019 at 2:20 am
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M 47 220lbs (just starting)
12 min RX women’s weight (65lbs)
11, 10
21 (counterbalance 100)
8,7
15 (cb 85)
9
9 (cb 70)
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Js Smith
February 19th, 2019 at 1:46 am
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Scaled to 21-15-9
Thrusters, 45#
Ring rows
7:01
180807 complex Fran 21-15-9 Jumping C2B Thrusters, 35# 7:38
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Kiron Simmons
February 19th, 2019 at 1:39 am
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Rx
9:49
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Matt Duplessis
February 19th, 2019 at 1:05 am
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M/31/5’9/175
6:27 Rx
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Jesse Delander
February 19th, 2019 at 1:05 am
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6:29 RX
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Diesel Tech
February 19th, 2019 at 12:59 am
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Rx 12:08
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Armando Flores
February 19th, 2019 at 12:58 am
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7:04 RX
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Mike Andridge
February 19th, 2019 at 12:18 am
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Strict Fran
ring pull ups
2 35# kettle bells for thrusters
9:29
m/49/175
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Chris Marchand
February 19th, 2019 at 12:04 am
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Rx 10 min
M 28Y 168CM 80KG
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Elliott Harding
February 18th, 2019 at 11:59 pm
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11:20
35 lb. Thrusters. Next time 45 lb.
Black band pullups. All sets broken, stay.
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Kevin Morley
February 18th, 2019 at 11:52 pm
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M, 35, 199.
Rx
9:51
First ever post!
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Stacey Carpenter
February 18th, 2019 at 11:51 pm
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11:50 21-15-9
Strict Green Band PU
65#Thruster
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David Williams
February 18th, 2019 at 11:38 pm
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6:45 RX
45/5’11/203
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Will Phillips
February 18th, 2019 at 11:26 pm
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Kipping pull-ups; definitely a PR even though I just recently got back into CrossFit more regularly.
5:10.59
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Arnaud Vhml
February 18th, 2019 at 11:06 pm
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Rx Strict 16:10
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Jacob Daniel
February 18th, 2019 at 11:00 pm
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6:04 RX smoked me
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Matt Bischel
February 18th, 2019 at 10:54 pm
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Still Fran, still uncomfortable. 5:19 Rx'd
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Liang Kong
February 19th, 2019 at 5:25 am
So FAST!
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Loren Shaffer
February 18th, 2019 at 10:46 pm
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5:45 I’m scaling the weight up next time for sure
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Nathan Michael King
February 18th, 2019 at 10:25 pm
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6:42 Rx No joke.
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Cy Azizi
February 18th, 2019 at 10:19 pm
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10:11 Rx
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Josh Brooks
February 18th, 2019 at 10:14 pm
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Rx 9:44 Strict Pull ups are feeling good!
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Alex Pham
February 18th, 2019 at 10:14 pm
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8:47
80 lb
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Shane Azizi
February 18th, 2019 at 10:06 pm
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5:43 Rx
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George Ponte
February 18th, 2019 at 10:05 pm
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7:40Rx
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Tim Williams
February 18th, 2019 at 10:01 pm
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Just did a scale; thrusters rx, pull ups were hanging on to the back of a stair under the stairs. That was tough on the grip I did 15, 9, 6, for the pull ups. 6:56 was mg time
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Tripp Starling
February 18th, 2019 at 9:48 pm
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Scaled weight to 65#
6:59
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Kisa Tiller
February 18th, 2019 at 9:29 pm
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That was my first Fran! Modified for injuries/strength. Felt like I could have gone harder/faster if my injuries weren’t so angry all the time.
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 6: Lever Efficiency
I think the importance of the lever arm is even more clear when we take things one step further and look at the resistance throughout the motion.
As you progress through a motion, you’re able to deliver more or less torque directly opposing the weight you’re trying to move. This draws a strength curve - that is, a curve of how strong you are throughout a motion. For a dramatic example of a strength curve, think of a bicep curl - we are really weak at the start (meaning, we can exert little force to move our forearm upward), and relatively weak at the end, but stronger toward the middle. Think of this like a parabola.
That opposing force ALSO changes as you go through the motion, particularly when the resistance is generated by gravity. To go back to the bicep curl, you’re mostly moving the weight horizontally at the start of the motion, when your arm is locked out, so the amount of resistance gravity applies is relatively little. As you move the weight up, you’re trying to move it in a progressively more vertical direction, and so the resistance increases, until you pass 90 degrees and it begins to decrease again. What matters here isn't the absolute force the weight generates (which is constant in a controlled movement, unless you're using chains or bands) but the torque your muscles need to overcome around the primary active joints.
What matters to us as lifters is how well these curves match up. You strain when your strength at a given point in that curve is close to the resistance at that same point. You fail when the resistance exceeds it. To stick with the bicep curve example, if our bicep is weaker at the bottom of the motion than the resistance opposing it, we can’t move the weight, even if we could move it through the remainder. (A lot of “cheating” is our natural attempt to overcome this. Leaning back during a bicep curl? That’s trying to change the resistance curve so that instead of having to move the weight directly upward, we’re moving it partially sideways, and so the dumbbell places less torque on our elbow.)
Now, we can’t change our strength curves, at least not immediately. What we can do is change the resistance curve. And that’s where lever arms come in. If you shorten the lever between the resistance and the joint, it exerts less torque even if it has the same force (since torque = force x distance) - and so, if we shorten the distance between our weight and the joint being worked hardest by the movement, we are in effect shrinking the resistance curve. (Good technique instead changes the shape of the curve, hopefully placing the greatest resistance in the parts of the movement where we are strongest).
As Lon mentioned in his post, this gets a lot more complicated in practice because when we shorten or lengthen the lever arm, we usually need to change the path the weight and our bodies follow to compensate, and often even the muscles involved in the movement, so there are all sorts of changes to both the strength and resistance curves. But it does speak to the high-level impact of lever arms on our ability to move weight. Just think of how much easier it would be to do a bicep curl if the weight was at your mid-forearm rather than in your hand.
These diagrams might be helpful to make some of that less abstract:
45# db thrusters, assisted strict pullups (40# assistance).
49 y/o, 6'1", 194#.
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Pascal Dülge
February 18th, 2019 at 8:12 pm
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9:57 min. RX
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Francisco Alférez
February 18th, 2019 at 8:06 pm
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Strict Fran
21-15-9 reps for time of:
Thrusters 22-kg. (49-lb.)
Strict pull-ups
Time: 20'38"
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David Cowan
February 18th, 2019 at 7:56 pm
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37yr 183# 10:22rx
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Heline de Souza
February 18th, 2019 at 7:33 pm
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Hi, it’s my first wod.
25kg - 6min38
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Randy Long
February 18th, 2019 at 7:29 pm
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9:46 Rx
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Jon Dickens
February 18th, 2019 at 7:22 pm
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8'44" @40Kg, this one nearly made pukie turn up today!!!, Does anyone else get pain in their ankle(s) after squatting???
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Beth Mohr
February 18th, 2019 at 7:21 pm
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F/55/5'10"/175
Fran first timer
Scaled: Assisted pull-ups
10:01
Working towards strict pull-ups, accessory 3-4x/week and lose about 15 lbs to accomplish it. Thanks for the tips and suggested modify info.
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James Kinton
February 18th, 2019 at 7:14 pm
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9:13 RX.
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Joel Vandruff
February 18th, 2019 at 7:08 pm
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4:57
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Keontia West
February 18th, 2019 at 7:06 pm
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10:30 first time ever doing Fran!
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Jade Teasdale
February 19th, 2019 at 7:00 pm
Welcome!
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Marlies Severyn
February 18th, 2019 at 7:02 pm
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38/F/140
9:10 RX. Holy forearms! Went for doubles on the pull ups for the 21s and 8/15. Single pull ups after that.
Smashed my old Strict Fran by more than half.
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Romain Grelier
February 18th, 2019 at 6:41 pm
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RX 8:15
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Jacob Cram
February 18th, 2019 at 6:41 pm
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6:18 Rx
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Anthony Mercado
February 18th, 2019 at 6:37 pm
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Rx’d 12:24
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sebastien cote
February 18th, 2019 at 6:36 pm
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6:47 ouch. After 5x2 sets of heavy squats.
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Nathan Grandon
February 18th, 2019 at 6:20 pm
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Weight on bar 95# 21-15-9 everything in 13:13.
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Tomi Krznar
February 18th, 2019 at 6:02 pm
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40 kg
6:45
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Nicole Deaver
February 18th, 2019 at 6:02 pm
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Strict Fran
6:02 Rx
Previous Fran was 5:39 with 65# & jumping pull-ups.
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Sebastien Fitzpatrick
February 18th, 2019 at 9:44 pm
That’s a mighty improvement!
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Claire Fiddian-Green
February 18th, 2019 at 9:50 pm
Wow, nice job!
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Tripp Starling
February 18th, 2019 at 9:53 pm
💪🏻
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Js Smith
February 19th, 2019 at 1:47 am
🙀. Wow!!! Way to be!
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Liang Kong
February 19th, 2019 at 5:27 am
This deserves a bottle of Chinese BaiJIu.
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Nicole Deaver
February 19th, 2019 at 1:55 pm
Thanks everyone for the support! It wasn’t very graceful & easy, but got it done. A few pull-ups I’d get on the bar and be like nope not happening & drop down and had to try again. The previous Fran was over a year ago I think when I could maybe get only 1-2 strict pull-ups so just getting the pull-ups was an improvement!
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Jim Rix
February 18th, 2019 at 5:50 pm
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Strict Fran
Scaled to 85#
8:05, pull-ups on a fat bar
180806: 7:32, 85# and a fat bar
160922: freestyle Fran, 8:45, 95#
140301: 7:22, 95#
131112: 8:15, 95#
131021: 9:05, 95#
56/5'8"/160#
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Reymond Kiddoo
February 18th, 2019 at 5:43 pm
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11:11 rx
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CURTIS PARKER
February 18th, 2019 at 5:22 pm
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Fran was a bi@tch today.
12:11
21x95lb thrusters
21 pull ups (about 15 good ones)
15x95lb thrusters
15 pull ups (about 8good ones)
9x95lb thrusters
9pull ups (about 5 good ones)
Pull ups were definitely my weakest part
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Evan Walton
February 18th, 2019 at 4:55 pm
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10:40
Assisted pullups
Feel very down about today's work
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Nathan Wray
February 18th, 2019 at 4:53 pm
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8:31 rx. That was not easy at all. What a workout tho
Male
5’10”
160lbs
44yrs
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NA
February 18th, 2019 at 4:14 pm
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21-15-9
Thrusters 65#
Strict Pull ups
7:48
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Kevin Schur
February 18th, 2019 at 4:11 pm
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M/31/220#/6’3”
S-75# - hard hanging barbell rows
8:35
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Melanie Hansen
February 18th, 2019 at 4:10 pm
Commented on: 190218
8:50 65lb and green band for strict pull ups
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Richie Williams
February 18th, 2019 at 3:41 pm
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 6: Lever Efficiency
10:23.... had to Scale p/ups.... very strict
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Meagan Lane
February 18th, 2019 at 3:33 pm
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9:11 rx
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Eric Love
February 18th, 2019 at 3:07 pm
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6:17rx
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Dimitri CH
February 18th, 2019 at 2:43 pm
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9m 10sec 43kg
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Michael Arko
February 18th, 2019 at 2:28 pm
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Thrusters at 65lbs - 10:11
Everything slow and strict, focused on form.
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Thomas Eichholzer
February 18th, 2019 at 2:27 pm
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15-12-9 pull-ups
21-15-9 thrusters
30kg (65lb)
10min50
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Hendrik Bünzen
February 18th, 2019 at 2:09 pm
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7:54 rx’d
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Mariana Carrasco
February 18th, 2019 at 1:55 pm
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Hey everyone! Cheers from Portugal!!
Time: 13'27''
Weight: 30kg
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Gabe Bird
February 18th, 2019 at 1:53 pm
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8:30 last set of thrusters were more push press than squats.
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John Clarke
February 18th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
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5:15 rx
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Craig Hicks
February 19th, 2019 at 3:26 am
Boom! Nice work
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Alfred Leutl
February 18th, 2019 at 1:20 pm
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6:16 40kg
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Sebastien Fitzpatrick
February 18th, 2019 at 12:51 pm
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6:10 Rx
Strict Fran is harder, but my pull-up stamina was way more limiting than my cardio/respiratory. I quickly dropped to sets of 3s and 2s.
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Il Xlll
February 18th, 2019 at 12:40 pm
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5:27
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Claire Fiddian-Green
February 18th, 2019 at 11:42 am
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10:56. Rx thrusters, combination of strict pull ups and band-assisted SPU (no rebounding).
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jeff pugel
February 18th, 2019 at 11:30 am
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44/M/234 lbs. 50 lb thrusters, tip toe pull ups. 9:16
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Sean Whiting
February 18th, 2019 at 11:16 am
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11:38 Rx
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yuya shimazu
February 18th, 2019 at 11:15 am
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6min19s!
bodyweight:76.0kg
thrusters:43kg(95lb)
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Benjamin Wilton
February 18th, 2019 at 11:13 am
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6:45
Scaled pull-ups to jumping negatives
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Federico Rossi Mori
February 18th, 2019 at 10:44 am
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RX 10:26
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Federico Rossi Mori
February 18th, 2019 at 10:44 am
24y/170cm/57kg
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Stacey Thompkins
February 18th, 2019 at 10:42 am
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M//44/6'2"/185#
Rx'd
8:43
For what it's worth my fastest Fran rx'd is just under 4 mins like 3:50 I would have to look it up to be exact newho good luck suspects
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Chris Meldrum
February 21st, 2019 at 9:47 pm
yup, i was about 2x my regular Fran as well
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Steve Adams
February 18th, 2019 at 9:19 am
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RX 9:10
M36/185/6'3"
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Sang Woo Kim
February 18th, 2019 at 9:12 am
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M/54/5'8"/165#
Scaled 65# 17min40sec, enjoyable :)
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Raphael Reyers
February 18th, 2019 at 8:25 am
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 6: Lever Efficiency
Hey guys,
I am not a physicist nor mathematician but isn't the torque, working on the fulcrum (hip), a bigger one on the right picture? The force works vertical to the Ground, which makes the distance to the fulcrum longer on the right side, although the lever is Shorter (drop the lot from the bar to see the distance to the fulcrum). For that reason the left picture Looks more efficiant. To make the efficiency of a low bar position more visible, the angles in the ankle, knee and hip should be the same on both pictures, shouldn't it?
If ankle, knee and hip angles are the same, the torque working on the fulcrum would be higher, due to higher distance from lot to fulcrum.
To prevent that higher torque from the high bar position, the Torso would have to be more upright (higher hip angle) which reduces the (pre) tension in the hip extensors, right?!
Dont get me wrong, I just want a deep understanding of this in order to use it for coaching.
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Clarke Read
February 18th, 2019 at 7:51 pm
Good observation, Raphael. I'm not a trainer or physician either, but I’ve got a light engineering background and I’ve felt the benefit of a low bar back squat firsthand, so I have a couple thoughts.
While the force works vertically, what this diagram is illustrating is specifically the torque around the hip joint. While the body as a whole is standing up when you squat - that is, the total force you exert on the bar is more or less directly upward - that’s not the case on a joint-by-joint level. Think of, say, doing a wall sit holding a weight over your head. There, the horizontal component of the lever arm at the hip is virtually zero, but it still takes effort to keep your hip joint from collapsing or to straighten it. The mechanics of that are complicated - we’d probably have to draw a force diagram around the joint to really suss it out, and those quickly get hairy - but hopefully first-hand experience is convincing enough to show that it’s there.
Just as importantly, you’re correct that this static diagram doesn’t represent the lever arm throughout the whole movement. As you move through the squat, the orientation of that lever arm between the bar and the hip joint is constantly shifting, but the length of the lever arm is constant. So yes, you are correct that at specific points in the back squat movement the bar in a low-bar back squat may be generating more torque around that hip joint than in a high bar movement, but over the course of the whole movement the shorter lever arm is going to most likely make the low-bar squat more efficient. (Assuming, of course, your technique is good) You’re right that the diagram could have maybe been a little clearer in showing this.
And then, of course, there’s the complication that we’re stronger or weaker throughout the movement, and so what really matters for each given person is this efficiency at the point of failure (or near-failure). But that’s a little more idiosyncratic, and that’s where coaches come in - figuring out where a given athlete is strong or weak in each movement and basically trying to maximize efficiency where and when it counts most.
That’s a little more hand-wavy than I’d like it to be, but hopefully it provides a little bit of clarity. Thanks for trying to dig deeper into the claims being made here.
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Lon Kilgore
February 18th, 2019 at 8:16 pm
Raphael,
Very good observation.
High bar squat position reduces torque around the hip by opening that angle and closing knee angle. That’s one reason why it’s useful in people limited by low back pain/pathology. But I was simply trying to demonstrate how a modification of an exercise affects a single lever’s efficiency. Isolating on one joint in the multi-joint and multi-lever squat may have muddied the point.
As we move the bar up the back, the lever efficiency, hip to bar, goes down. If I would have drawn identical posture images (both images with high bar hip angle), the high bar position would have presented an off-balance figure ready to crash forward. We can’t maintain the same bottom angle of posture as when the bar is held low, we have to reposition back angle to handle the weight and keep the bar over mid-foot for balance. We, most trainees, intuitively don’t let that long back lever camber forward, putting the bar in advance of the toes, reflexes stop that. That required positional adaptation results in less possible work (load lifted), the outcome of inefficiency.
Lon
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Raphael Reyers
February 19th, 2019 at 11:04 am
many THX to Clarke and Lon for picking this up! I totally agree with you. With the same angles a high bar position would crash you forward AND over the total movement it is definitely less efficient.
What we, as trainees, definitely experience is the better control and tension when doing a low bar squat, especially in the lower position.
So we could say that in this very specific angle, when the lower bar position causes a longer distance from load lot to fulcrum, the better tension (kind of pre stretch of the posterior chain) coveres the higher torque at the fulcrum. In any other position, the low bar is going to be more efficient anyway.
have a nice week guys!
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Christian Storti
February 18th, 2019 at 8:18 am
Commented on: 190218
Good workout...Rx 7:10 💪🏻 Good work my friends
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Shannon Said
February 18th, 2019 at 7:47 am
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10:24
40kg (instead of 43kg)
Bended knee pull ups (not strict)
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Weon-Woo Lee
February 18th, 2019 at 6:43 am
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6:10 Rx ..
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Maher Alsayid
February 18th, 2019 at 3:21 am
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40kg
9:30 minutes
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Eric O'Connor
February 18th, 2019 at 3:10 am
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I’m interested in seeing the differences in time between this strict version of Fran and the classic version of Fran. I’m really curious if anyone will be able to hit this workout in sub 3:00!
Here are some thoughts on scaling:
Thrusters- I consider the prescribed weight to be light. I’ll coach my athletes to use loads that allow them to, potentially, complete the first round unbroken. Ideally, the subsequent rounds are completed with minimal rest breaks. Nearly all of my athletes will reduce the load and perform the prescribed amount of reps, though some cases, very deconditioned or extremely new athletes, might require a reduction in reps.
Strict Pull-ups- I consider the volume of this movement to be moderate and, for most of my athletes, will be performed at a much slower pace than the thrusters. Though this is true, the goal is to still keep moving. If this volume of strict pull-ups will require frequent and long rest breaks, I will consider scaling the reps to 15-12-9 or 15-10-5 for this movement only. For athletes that cannot perform this movement adequately, I will attempt to have them complete this movement utilizing band assistance and potentially reducing reps. This recommendation is a change from the banded lat pulldown suggestion for the previous strict pull-up workout on 190212. There are many options to scale this movement for any ability and skill level. I might have an instance where I need to scale to a seated-to-standing pull-up. Regardless of the scaling being performed, I will attempt to preserve the strict nature of the movement and avoid kipping today.
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Rajat Samanta
February 18th, 2019 at 3:03 am
Commented on: 190218
strict Fran RX = 8min & 40sec.
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Katina Thornton
February 18th, 2019 at 2:47 am
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 6: Lever Efficiency
I love that the coaches in our box emphasize lever efficiency. We need every mechanical advantage we can get.
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Chris Sinagoga
February 18th, 2019 at 2:36 am
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Champions Club Scaling Notes:
STIMULUS
Here's an opportunity to talk about strict/skill ratio. In general, we should have 3:1 skill to strength ratio - meaning that if you can do 10 strict pull-ups, you should be able to do 30 kipping pull-ups.
So here's the test for this version of Fran: can you split the pull-ups into 3 even sets across the entire workout? If so, then you are at least pretty close to evenly balanced with skill and strength. If you're off, make note of it and you'll know what to practice.
GROUP
The temptation here is to retest regular Fran. I might, personally (like i did with Strict Cindy), and the reason being I'd really like to see how the handstands and strict pull-up work has paid off. So if you want this to be a test then I'd go with regular Fran because - as I mentioned in my "strict" rant last week, it's really difficult to retest "strict" workouts. If you want to use this as a training tool for the group, then do strict with Ricky Reps instead of rings or bands.
Key Matchup: Your breathing vs. staying tight on pull-ups
SCALING THIS WELL WILL CAUSE ME TO: Either feel a Fran response (because I'm doing regular Fran), or somewhere in the ballpark.
General Fear Level: 7. Still has that horrible F-word in it, but "for quality" moments are allowed
General Emasculating Level: 8. You'll be surprised how much your strict movements suck when you're breathing hard.
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David Cowan
February 18th, 2019 at 5:47 am
Hi Chris, Do you work for CFHQ?
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Chris Sinagoga
February 18th, 2019 at 1:35 pm
I wish Dave!
Long time CrossFitter and medium-time affiliate owner.
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Bradley Sadler
February 18th, 2019 at 1:57 am
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The programming since January first has made me so happy! I’ve been screaming for ages about strict pull-ups CrossFit finally agrees :-)
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Jerome Anthony Long
February 18th, 2019 at 1:27 am
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First time doing this WOD and it was harder than it looked.
Weight on Bar: 115 lbs
Time: 9:31 min.
Looking forward to what's next.
Thank you.
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Lisa Stanley
February 18th, 2019 at 1:26 am
Commented on: 190218
Fran was my very first WOD almost 10 years ago. 😍
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Lisa Stanley
February 18th, 2019 at 2:39 pm
8:13
First 15 were jumping negatives pull ups the rest were feet in front knees bent assisted
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Steven Thunander
February 18th, 2019 at 1:15 am
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Globe scale: as is.
For all... If you have a sub 5 fran, challenge yourself and do this with dumbbells 50/35lbs. If using a barbell NO DROPPING! Set the bar down with control.
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Steven Thunander
February 18th, 2019 at 1:29 am
And if you are really ballsy... Do L-Sit pullups for the strict pullups... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9DEd2SSVa8
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David Mitchell
February 18th, 2019 at 1:05 am
Commented on: 190218
Been waiting on this one. Look forward to seeing how different this feels.
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